Σάββατο, Ιουνίου 27, 2026

Ρόντρικ Μπίτον: «Θαυμάζω τους μετανάστες που γίνονται Έλληνες τόσο γρήγορα»

Μια συζήτηση με τον ελληνιστή ιστορικό, συγγραφέα, ομότιμο καθηγητή του King’s College και πρόεδρο της Βρετανικής Σχολής Αθηνών σερ

Ρόντρικ Μπίτον/Βικιπαίδεια

με αφορμή την παρουσία του ως τιμώμενο πρόσωπο στα Βραβεία Βιβλίου Public 2026, για την εθνική ιστορία, τη γλώσσα, την έννοια της ελληνικότητας, την αθηναϊκή δημοκρατία των κλασικών χρόνων και τις σύγχρονες προκλήσεις.

Σκωτσέζος στην καταγωγή, αλλά με βαθιά και διαχρονική σχέση με την Ελλάδα, ο σερ Ρόντρικ Μπίτον έχει αφιερώσει δεκαετίες στη μελέτη της ελληνικής ιστορίας, της λογοτεχνίας και της εθνικής μας ταυτότητας, φτάνοντας τελικά να πολιτογραφηθεί Έλληνας. 

Με αφορμή το πλούσιο επιστημονικό και συγγραφικό του έργο, το βιβλίο του «Οι Έλληνες – Μια παγκόσμια ιστορία» (εκδ. 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και το νέο του έργο «Europe: A New History», Europeπου αναμένεται να κυκλοφορήσει στα ελληνικά, συζητήσαμε για όσα διαμόρφωσαν τη σχέση του με τον ελληνισμό, για τις ιδέες που διαπερνούν το έργο του και για τις μεγάλες προκλήσεις του σήμερα. 

Πόσο διαφορετική είναι η ματιά ενός «ξένου» ιστορικού στην ιστορία ενός έθνους; Μήπως η απόσταση από το αντικείμενο επιτρέπει και μια πιο ψύχραιμη προσέγγιση; Πώς ορίζεται η ελληνικότητα και ποια θέση κατέχει η γλώσσα στη διαχρονική της εξέλιξη; Υπάρχει πραγματικός κίνδυνος για τα ελληνικά ή πρόκειται για έναν διαχρονικό φόβο που επανέρχεται σε κάθε εποχή; Παραμένει η Ελλάδα κοιτίδα του πολιτισμού στη συλλογική ευρωπαϊκή συνείδηση, εξακολουθώντας να εμπνέει τον υπόλοιπο κόσμο; Γενικά, τι τον ώθησε να επιχειρήσει μια νέα αφήγηση της ευρωπαϊκής ιστορίας και ποια θεωρεί τα σημαντικότερα διακυβεύματα για την Ελλάδα και την Ευρώπη στον 21ο αιώνα; Τελικά, διδάσκει η Ιστορία; Αυτά είναι μερικά από τα ερωτήματα που τέθηκαν στη συζήτησή μας, κατά τη διάρκεια της οποίας αναφερθήκαμε και στην εκδήλωση «Από τον Όμηρο στην AI: Το ταξίδι της αφήγησης», όπου συνομίλησε με τον CEO της Olympia Group, Ανδρέα Αθανασόπουλο, στο πλαίσιο των φετινών Βραβείων Βιβλίου Public στο Μέγαρο Μουσικής.

 

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